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Preparation for War and Peace

September 24, 2010

[Disclaimer: The quote below is taken from the Dictionary of Doctrine website. When I originally posted the excerpt below I purposely did not include a link to the source. The reason for this is that I recognized the materials to be taken from the work of R.B. Thieme, Jr. The Dictionary of Doctrine site provides no attribution that I know of and, knowing that R.B. Thieme, Jr., Bible Ministries is very vigilant in protecting their copyrights, I didn’t want the site to “go away.” I ended out discovering that the owner of the Dictionary of Doctrine site had modified some of Colonel Thieme’s teaching in a way that would have made him apoplectic. I notified some people who are associated with R. B. Thieme, Jr., Bible Ministries of the existence of the Dictionary of Doctrine site. The site is still there and I have no idea if any action will ever be taken by R. B. Thieme, Jr., Bible Ministries against it.]

This week’s post is another in a series about the Laws of Divine Establishment and deals with a believer’s responsibility in a time of war. I have heard R.B. Thieme, Jr. (a.k.a. Colonel Thieme) teach this subject many times and it is one that makes Christians of a pacifist bent angry. I don’t think that other people’s irritation proves a point one way or another. However, whether people agree or disagree with what is said here they do need to grapple with the scriptures regarding war.

Two points come to mind here. First, notice that many of the scriptures in this excerpt are from the Old Testament. I have read many Christians who claim that everything changed with Christ’s first advent and that such warlike rhetoric is not appropriate for the Christian. I agree that some things changed with the first advent but I won’t agree that everything did. We are no longer bound by the Law of Moses but by the Law of Christ. I don’t see where the passages quoted are part and parcel of the Mosaic Law.

No nation on the earth today has a purpose like that of ancient Israel. When I think about it I can’t help but conclude that Israel was commanded to follow commands from a perfect God who is perfectly righteous. How can a proper, biblical, approach to war and peace change without God’s righteousness also changing? I just cannot see that happening.

The other thing that comes to mind is I have read a lot of chatter about Roman Catholic “Just War Theory” in the last ten years. From what little I know of it I believe that it is very different from what I am providing below. Without knowing the premises that Just War Theory is built on I cannot make a definitive statement about it but I believe that it does not take much of the Old Testament into account or somehow says that it isn’t relevant. This is a question I have thought about reading up on but I have finally decided that it isn’t worth my time if it takes me away from studying the scripture directly.

Here is this week’s lesson: (more…)

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Exterior Protection of a Nation

September 10, 2010

[Disclaimer: The quote below is taken from the Dictionary of Doctrine website. When I originally posted the excerpt below I purposely did not include a link to the source. The reason for this is that I recognized the materials to be taken from the work of R.B. Thieme, Jr. The Dictionary of Doctrine site provides no attribution that I know of and, knowing that R.B. Thieme, Jr., Bible Ministries is very vigilant in protecting their copyrights, I didn’t want the site to “go away.” I ended out discovering that the owner of the Dictionary of Doctrine site had modified some of Colonel Thieme’s teaching in a way that would have made him apoplectic. I notified some people who are associated with R. B. Thieme, Jr., Bible Ministries of the existence of the Dictionary of Doctrine site. The site is still there and I have no idea if any action will ever be taken by R. B. Thieme, Jr., Bible Ministries against it.]

This week’s post on the Laws of Divine Establishment has two sections: exterior protection of a nation and the military image of Jesus Christ. Most Christians who read the bible literally understand that nations are permitted by God to have armies and to fight wars. Some Christians don’t like that and try to get around that by saying that Christ changed all of that during the first advent. For those Christians who believe that pacifism is the only Divinely sanctioned way of life will not like this week’s post since it not only says that war can be sanctioned by God but is sometimes required by God!

A Time for Everything

1 There is a time for everything,
and a season for every activity under heaven:

2 a time to be born and a time to die,
a time to plant and a time to uproot,

3 a time to kill and a time to heal,
a time to tear down and a time to build,

4 a time to weep and a time to laugh,
a time to mourn and a time to dance,

5 a time to scatter stones and a time to gather them,
a time to embrace and a time to refrain,

6 a time to search and a time to give up,
a time to keep and a time to throw away,

7 a time to tear and a time to mend,
a time to be silent and a time to speak,

8 a time to love and a time to hate,
a time for war and a time for peace .

Ecclesiastes 3:1-8

I do think the military image of Jesus Christ is an important one to remember. Not only are there times for us to be at war and at peace but the same is true of Christ Himself.

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Interior Protection of a Nation

August 27, 2010

[Disclaimer: The quote below is taken from the Dictionary of Doctrine website. When I originally posted the excerpt below I purposely did not include a link to the source. The reason for this is that I recognized the materials to be taken from the work of R.B. Thieme, Jr. The Dictionary of Doctrine site provides no attribution that I know of and, knowing that R.B. Thieme, Jr., Bible Ministries is very vigilant in protecting their copyrights, I didn’t want the site to “go away.” I ended out discovering that the owner of the Dictionary of Doctrine site had modified some of Colonel Thieme’s teaching in a way that would have made him apoplectic. I notified some people who are associated with R. B. Thieme, Jr., Bible Ministries of the existence of the Dictionary of Doctrine site. The site is still there and I have no idea if any action will ever be taken by R. B. Thieme, Jr., Bible Ministries against it.]

This week’s installment on the Laws of Divine Establishment deals with “interior protection” of a nation’s citizens from crime. There should be nothing in this post that is surprising to those who have read much of the scriptures but I am sure a lot of Christians will strongly disagree with many of the statements made here.

The modern world, which really isn’t so different from the pre-modern world, does not view the role of government in the same way that scripture does. Scripture emphasizes the protection of people’s lives and property and refuses to apply different standard to different people no matter what. Justice is justice and it is independent of how much money a person has, what ethnic group they belong to, or what their religious beliefs are. The Bible rejects group identity politics (this is different than nationalism) which have become so popular in the United States and, from what I can tell, around the world. It is as wrong to kill a wealthy man as it is a poor man. It is also just as wrong to steal from a wealthy man as it is a poor man (that statement is rejected by most people today).

So, blind justice is a biblical principle which is quickly being forgotten today. We all “forget” truth at our own expense.

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Family and Nationalism

August 13, 2010

[Disclaimer: The quote below is taken from the Dictionary of Doctrine website. When I originally posted the excerpt below I purposely did not include a link to the source. The reason for this is that I recognized the materials to be taken from the work of R.B. Thieme, Jr. The Dictionary of Doctrine site provides no attribution that I know of and, knowing that R.B. Thieme, Jr., Bible Ministries is very vigilant in protecting their copyrights, I didn’t want the site to “go away.” I ended out discovering that the owner of the Dictionary of Doctrine site had modified some of Colonel Thieme’s teaching in a way that would have made him apoplectic. I notified some people who are associated with R. B. Thieme, Jr., Bible Ministries of the existence of the Dictionary of Doctrine site. The site is still there and I have no idea if any action will ever be taken by R. B. Thieme, Jr., Bible Ministries against it.]

This week’s post focuses on the third (family) and fourth (nation) divine institutions. The source that I am got this excerpt from does not credit anyone as author but I definitely recognize some of this as being the work of R.B. Thieme, Jr. (aka Colonel Thieme). I remember him teaching on this subject many times and have heard him say that the United States is well on its way to becoming a “mobocracy.” Even though I was young at the time (I first heard him teach on this topic in the early 1970’s) I remember the angry reaction it caused. Even to this day I will occasionally read someone who brings up Colonel Thieme’s mobocracy statement and are still angry about it. When I look and see what is happening in the United States I really believe that what Colonel Thieme taught is standing the test of time. But if none of my readers believe the mobocracy statements then that is fine. What you should do, in all cases, is check what is written here against scripture and see if it holds up. If the writing here is consistent with scripture on the major points then we can agree to disagree on the minor points.

I would like to point out that I do have a slight disagreement with some of what is written here. Toward the end of the article it is stated that the bible advocates only one kind of government and that is a monarchy. I do partly disagree with that statement. It is true that the only perfect government that will ever exist in the world is when Christ reigns as monarch from David’s throne in Jerusalem (I am a premillennialist). However that monarchy will have a perfect monarch as its ruler. When Israel first entered the Promised Land that their form of government was a theocracy but we would probably recognize it more as a confederacy. I will admit that God was their king but there was no central government, we would not recognize them as being a monarchy. I believe that the millennial government headed by Christ will be different. Maybe this is a small point but I think it is worth thinking about.

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Definition of the Laws of Divine Establishment

July 30, 2010

[Disclaimer: The quote below is taken from the Dictionary of Doctrine website. When I originally posted the excerpt below I purposely did not include a link to the source. The reason for this is that I recognized the materials to be taken from the work of R.B. Thieme, Jr. The Dictionary of Doctrine site provides no attribution that I know of and, knowing that R.B. Thieme, Jr., Bible Ministries is very vigilant in protecting their copyrights, I didn’t want the site to “go away.” I ended out discovering that the owner of the Dictionary of Doctrine site had modified some of Colonel Thieme’s teaching in a way that would have made him apoplectic. I notified some people who are associated with R. B. Thieme, Jr., Bible Ministries of the existence of the Dictionary of Doctrine site. The site is still there and I have no idea if any action will ever be taken by R. B. Thieme, Jr., Bible Ministries against it.]

This is the next post in my series on the Laws of Divine Establishment. It provides a good definition of what the Laws of Divine Establishment are and the first two Divine Institutions (the Laws of Divine Establishment are built on the foundation of the Divine Institutions). If followed these laws provide any society with freedom and stability. The history of the United States provides an excellent example of what happens to societies when these laws are followed and when they are ignored.

As a citizen of the United States I have had the feeling since I was a child that the U.S. was losing its greatness. I do not mean greatness in terms of money and military power (even though we may be losing those right now) but in terms of being a place where honest, hard working people were protected and could prosper. As I have grown older the feeling has intensified and I have come to realize that it isn’t only here in the U.S. where circumstances seem to be getting worse. I believe this is due to a worldwide breakdown in marriage and family (two of the Divine Institutions) and many societies are breaking apart because of it.

Satan remains the ruler of this world until Christ returns to sit upon His throne. Satan hates anything that comes from the hand of God which includes the Laws of Divine Establishment. Right now it appears that Satan is having great success in undermining the Laws of Divine Establishment throughout the world. None the less we are still responsible for our decisions both good and bad. The words of the prophet Hosea are as applicable to us today as they were to Israel:

7 Indeed, they sow the wind
and reap the whirlwind.
There is no standing grain;
what sprouts fails to yield flour.
Even if they did,
foreigners would swallow it up.

8 Israel is swallowed up!
Now they are among the nations
like discarded pottery.

Hosea 8:7-8

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The Laws of Divine Establishment and the Plan of God

July 16, 2010

[Disclaimer: The quote below is taken from the Dictionary of Doctrine website. When I originally posted the excerpt below I purposely did not include a link to the source. The reason for this is that I recognized the materials to be taken from the work of R.B. Thieme, Jr. The Dictionary of Doctrine site provides no attribution that I know of and, knowing that R.B. Thieme, Jr., Bible Ministries is very vigilant in protecting their copyrights, I didn’t want the site to “go away.” I ended out discovering that the owner of the Dictionary of Doctrine site had modified some of Colonel Thieme’s teaching in a way that would have made him apoplectic. I notified some people who are associated with R. B. Thieme, Jr., Bible Ministries of the existence of the Dictionary of Doctrine site. The site is still there and I have no idea if any action will ever be taken by R. B. Thieme, Jr., Bible Ministries against it.]

This will be my first post of many on the Laws of Divine Establishment. As I start posting on this topic I want to point out that when Colonel Thieme taught this many years ago it was controversial. He was accused of political motivations in teaching this subject. My belief is that if the Laws of Divine Establishment can be backed up by scripture then no one can be accused of having political motivations by teaching it. It is up to my readers to make up their own minds.

This introduction begins with the plan of God and it mentions many of God’s attributes. Each of the divine attributes could be its own post (or multiple posts). Rather than try and footnote these attributes I am going to provide this link to Doctrine of Divine Attributes at the Verse by Verse website which is ran by Maranatha Church of Bethany, Oklahoma. If you have any questions on the attributes please let me know and I will do my best to answer them.

This is a long post so rather than waste space rambling on various topics I am just going to jump right into this weeks excerpt: (more…)


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