Satan’s Objection

[Disclaimer: The quote below is taken from the Dictionary of Doctrine website. When I originally posted the excerpt below I purposely did not include a link to the source. The reason for this is that I recognized the materials to be taken from the work of R.B. Thieme, Jr. The Dictionary of Doctrine site provides no attribution that I know of and, knowing that R.B. Thieme, Jr., Bible Ministries is very vigilant in protecting their copyrights, I didn’t want the site to “go away.” I ended out discovering that the owner of the Dictionary of Doctrine site had modified some of Colonel Thieme’s teaching in a way that would have made him apoplectic. I notified some people who are associated with R. B. Thieme, Jr., Bible Ministries of the existence of the Dictionary of Doctrine site. The site is still there and I have no idea if any action will ever be taken by R. B. Thieme, Jr., Bible Ministries against it.]

This week we continue with the topic of the angelic conflict. This post focuses and Satan and what happened after Satan was convicted by God of rebellion and sentenced to the Lake of Fire for eternity. Those who believe that the angelic conflict is the reason for the human race’s creation believe that an appeal had to have been made by Satan after he was sentenced to the Lake of Fire for eternity.

This is certainly controversial but I personally believe that it is logically solid and consistent with scripture. I do think that it explains things in scripture that no other teaching does. Steve Ellis, pastor of the Church of the Servant King, asks how else can we answer these questions:

●Why the delay between the pronouncement of Satan’s sentence in Ezekiel 28:12b-19 and the execution of that sentence at the end of human history?
●Why was there a prohibition in the Garden of Eden that Adam and Eve not partake of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil? Why any prohibition at all? If your answer is “to test man’s loyalty,” I say “why?” Why would man’s loyalty need to be tested?
●Why is there such interest on the part of angels in the affairs of human history?


Satan’s objection[1]

The greatest attacks Satan has made against God were made before man came into the picture. Satan is a super genius; he is smarter than any created being who has ever lived! ( Eze 28:12) Before anyone existed on this earth, Satan had his back to the wall with a Divine judgment upon himself, and millions of angelic creatures who followed him. Obviously, Satan would not like the judgment, and in seeking to do something about it, made a very strong objection an objection that was, in effect, an appeal which demanded a new trial, a new case. Based upon a knowledge and understanding of, (Matt 25:41) and (Rev 20:1-10) his objections can be deduced very simply: How can freewill be TRULY free if we, (Fallen angels in this case) must obey the Divine Thinking and Virtue love of God; and How can the Virtue love of God cast His creatures into the Lake of Fire? The answers are interesting to us, because as human beings, we have become involved in the same objections from every namby-pamby, maudlin, addle-brained type of individual! This, of course, originates from Satan himself, and the answer has to do with angelic and human free will versus God’s Sovereignty.

Angelic free will had an opportunity under grace and rejected it. Therefore, while the fallen angels were saying, “Not fair!” God created man in order to demonstrate to them that His position in grace was valid, that Virtue love can only express itself through grace, and that God cannot change His essence to accommodate any creature, whether angel or human being. God’s perfect character included Virtue love for the angels; but God cannot love in a way that is inconsistent with His other characteristics. When Satan went negative and said, “…I will be like the Most High,” (Isa 14:13-14) God had to make a decision, one that was compatible with His righteousness and justice, as well as with His virtue love.

The great underlying issue in history is always the essence of God, of which virtue love, Divine Integrity and Holiness are a part. When you understand reconciliation and propitiation, you can see that God has done some of the most astounding things, and yet never lost or compromised one bit of His essence. In other words, the devil was “ACED” BY GRACE! There is no way the devil can win! He couldn’t change God, and you can’t change God, nor can any other human being. In fact, our security is in the fact that He cannot change. That’s why we have the assurance, “Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever.” (Heb 13:8) The big issue in the angelic conflict is God’s essence! In all of history, we have certain creatures going for Satan; in prehistory, the angels — in history — man. Only God Remains intact!

The pattern of angelic rejection

The pattern of angelic rejection has to do with the angels’ free will. We know that angels had free will because Satan, who is the ruler of fallen angels, went negative toward God. The first sin of any creature was one of negative volition, when Satan said to himself five times “I WILL.” (Isa 14:12-14) And this tells us a great deal, because of the negative volition of man; (Adam and the woman) and the negative volition of Satan; add up to a parallel situation. It also adds up to another Principle, that God created man to resolve the angelic conflict and to overrule the objection of Satan.

In, (Heb 2:2) we have the angelic rejection of the Lord Jesus Christ; “…the word spoken through angels proved unalterable, and every transgression and disobedience received a just penalty.’’ This Scripture relates man’s Salvation to angelic Salvation. Mankind and angels are both involved in the same Principle of negative volition. We do not know the mechanics of the grace Salvation for angels; but, since Satan had sinned, every angel had had his opportunity to make a decision for or against Christ before man was even created.


[1] Just so no one gets the wrong idea I would like to mention once again that this is not my original work. I believe that it is based at least in part on the work of R.B. Thieme, Jr who did some brilliant studies on angels and the angelic conflict (I link to his site in the sidebar). I am providing the information here because I firmly believe it is important for it to reach a wider audience.

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